I am sooo into this tribe, I find good ideas all the time! I am now using homemade remedies for almost everything - instead of soap, toothpaste, scrubs, masks, moisterizer, conditioner, hair rinse, hair spray, etc, only one thing is missing: shampoo! I haven't found a homemade recipe yet that is really simple and effective at the same time. I try to buy the ones i believe are the mildest and most natural but who knows....? I like lush products or body shop. Organic ones from the healthfood store are maybe the best quality but they all seem to dry my hair out. Sometimes I delute them with a strong herbal tea (rosemary), it's quite nice. What does everyone else use? Any ideas?
Sun, May 28, 2006 - 2:02 PMI only wash my hair once a week to once every 2 weeks, when I do wash my hair I oil it first and the conditioners I use are completely oil based, so I don't *think* that would help clean my hair because I need something to help wash the oil out. If the people who posted about only using conditioner have anything comments about that I'm extrememly interested!
Since I have noticed that most shampoos are way too strong/drying to my hair, what I use is Pantene Sleek and Smooth shampoo+conditioner, and then condition afterwards followed by and acv rinse. This doesn't over dry my hair and leaves it soft, smooth, and silky!
If anyone does find homemade shampoo recipes I'm all ears! You know, I wonder if the reason why people needed to start oiling their hair in the first place is because ovc shampoos are too strong and stripping. I don't think people used to oil thier hair and they had beautiful, healthy long hair, ya know?
Sun, May 28, 2006 - 3:00 PMOf course, the annoying thing about Pantene (which does feel nice to use) is that it's tested on animals. I recently found this out and was pretty saddened. Check out www.caringconsumer.com/pdfs/c...est.doc for more.
Actually, a lot of the products I like are on there. I guess that's the bonus of making stuff yourself, eh? The testing is done, well, on you.
Sun, May 28, 2006 - 4:52 PMIn fact, looking closely at that list, basically ALL of my favourite products are on there. (Like Clean & Clear, which I use as a day moisturiser because it is SPF15. ) Sigh, forget I posted that. Looks like I have a lot of work to do getting on track with this. :( Incentive to make my own stuff, I guess. (Although that doesn't work with the SPF15 products and nail varnishes. Beh.)
This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.Unsu...Mon, May 29, 2006 - 1:03 AMHere is a list of co. that do not do animal testing.
A=Austria B=Belgium CH=Switzerland D=Germany F=France
GB=Great Britain USA=United States of America AUS=Australia
Alicina Cosmetic (B)
Allen's Naturally (USA)
Alva Umweltschonende Produckte (D)
Amber Aromatherapy (GB)
Animal Shield (D)
Appearance Matters (GB)
ASDA Stores Ltd. (GB)
Aura-Soma Products Ltd. (GB)
Auromere Ayurvedic Imports (USA)
Austrian Moor Products (GB)
Aux Senteurs de Delph (F)
Badgequo Ltd. (GB)
Barry M. Cosmetics (GB)
Beauty Through Herbs (GB)
Beauty Works (GB)
Beautycology/Candy Kisses (USA)
Bio-D Company Ltd. (GB)
Bioforce GmbH (D)
Biokosma AG (CH)
BioPac Inc. (USA)
Body Centre, The (GB)
Body Reform (GB)
Body Shop International, The
Borlind of Germany (USA)
Bronzo Sensual (USA)
Calder Valley Soap Company Ltd. (GB)
Caurnie Soap Company (GB)
Clare Maxwell Hudson (GB)
Clearly Natural Products (USA)
Color My Image (USA)
Colourflair Studies Ltd. (GB)
Comfrey Vertriebs GmbH (D)
Dead Sea Magik (GB)
Dolma Vegan Perfumes (GB)
Dome Cosmetics (GB)
Dr. Bronner's (USA)
Dr. Goodpet (USA)
Earth Science (USA)
Echo Essential Oils (GB)
Elizabeth Peter (A)
Elizabeth Van Buren- Aromatherapy (USA)
English Ideas Ltd. (USA)
Escential Botanicals (GB)
Espial Ltd. (USA)
Essential Oil Company, The (GB)
Essential Products of America (USA)
Faith in Nature (GB)
Fleabusters/Rx For Fleas Inc. (USA)
Fleur Aromatherapy (GB)
Forever New International (USA)
French Transit (USA)
Frische Kosmetik (D)
Fritz Schmidinger (A)
Glitz & Glam (GB)
Green Things (GB)
Hair Workshops (GB)
Hakawerk W. Schlotz GmbH (D)
Hans-Joaquim Brandl (D)
Harmonie Verte (F)
Hawaiian Resources Co. (USA)
HealthRite/Montana Naturals (USA)
Hemp Collective, The (GB)
Herbal Products & Development (USA)
Herbes Savantes (F)
High Energy Hair Products (GB)
Hima Laya Natural Cosmetics (D)
Honesty Cosmetics (GB)
Island Dog Cosmetics (USA)
JR Liggett Ltd. (USA)
Jacques G. Paltz (F)
Jason Natural Products (USA)
John Paul Mitchell Systems (USA)
Kent Cosmetics (GB)
Kiss My Face (USA)
KSA Jojoba (USA)
L'Artisan Savonnier (F)
La Florina GmbH & Co. KG (D)
Lady of the Lake Company (USA)
Laura Paige Cosmetics (GB)
Levlad Inc./Natureís Gate (USA)
Lise du Castelet (F)
Little Forest Natural Baby Products, Inc. (USA)
Little Green Shop (GB)
Lothian Herbs (GB)
Louis Widmer (CH)
Make Up International Ltd. (GB)
Marie M (F)
Mary Kay Cosmetics (USA)
Maxim Marketing (GB)
Mia Rose Products Inc. (USA)
Michaelís Naturopathic Programs (USA)
Montagne Jeunesse (GB)
Nadinaís Cremes (USA)
Natupur Frisor (D)
Natural Science (USA)
Naturkosmetik Gabrielle - Schachner (A)
Nectar Beauty Shops (GB)
Network Management (GB)
Nirvana, Inc. (USA)
Norfolk Lavender (GB)
Pamela Stevens Ltd (GB)
Perfumerís Guild, The (GB)
Poppy Seeds Ltd. (GB)
Pro-Tec Pet Health (USA)
Provida Kosmetik (D)
Pure Fantasy Cosmetics (GB)
Pure Plant (GB)
Quinessence Aromatherapy (GB)
Rachel Perry Inc. (USA)
Rejuvi Skin Care (USA)
Ringana Bio-Bio (A)
Ronson Home Shopping (GB)
Sacred Blends (USA)
Sanoll Ziegenmilch (A)
Shirley Price Aromatherapy Ltd. (GB)
Soap Opera, The (USA)
Sternof Vital-Kosmetik (A)
Styx-Naturcosmetic Krautergarten (A)
Terra Natura (A)
Tesco Stores Ltd. (GB)
Togal Werk (D)
Tom's of Maine (USA)
Tuesday's Girl Ltd. (GB)
Urban Decay (USA)
Vegan Verde (D)
Vegana Naturkraft (D)
W. Ulrich (D)
Weleda Ltd. (GB)
Your Body Ltd. (GB)
Unsu...Mon, May 29, 2006 - 1:08 AMHere is another list. Oh boy this is a long one!
ABBA Products Inc., 2010 Main St., #1000, Irvine, CA 92714
ABEnterprises, 145 Cortlandt St., Staten Island, NY 10302-2048
Abercrombie & Fitch, 4 Limited Pkwy., E., Reynoldsburg, OH 43068
Abkit Inc., ( CamoCare ), 130 E. 93rd St., New York, NY 10128
*Abracadabra Inc., P.O. Box 1040, Guernville, CA 95446
Adrian Arpel, Inc., 720 Fifth Ave., New York, NY 10019
*Advantage Wonder Cleaner, 16615 S. Halsted St., Harvey, IL 60426
African Bio-Botanica Inc., 602 NW Ninth Ave., Gainsville, FL 32601
*Ahima Natural Care, 99 Dolomite Dr., Ontario M3J 2N1 Canada
Alba Botanica Cosmetics, P.O.Box 40339, Santa Barbara, CA 93140
Alexandra Avery Purely Natural Body Care, 4717 SE Belmont, Portland, OR
Alexandra de Markoff, 625 Madison Ave., New York, NY 10022
*Alexia Alexander Corp., 24937 West Ave. Tibbits, Valencia, CA 91355
*Allens Naturally, P.O. Box 514, Dept. Farmington, MI 48332-0514
Almay, 525 Madison Ave., New York, NY 10022
Aloegen Natural Cosmetics, 9200 Mason Ave., Chatsworth, CA 91311
Aloette Cosmetics, 1301 Wright's La., West Chester, PA 19380
Aloe Up, Inc., P.O. Box 299, Ridgefield, NJ 07567
Aloe Vera of America Inc., 9660 Dilworth, Dallas, TX 75243
Alvin Last, 19 Babcock Pl., Yonkers, NY 10701-2714
*Amazon Products, 275 N.E. 59th St., Miami, FL 33137
*American Formulating & Manufacturing, 350 W. Ash St., #700, San Diego, CA 92101
American International, 2220 Gaspar Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90040
*American Safety Razor, P.O. Box 500, Staunton, VA 24401
*America's Finest Products Corp., 1639 Ninth St., Santa Monica, CA 90404
Amitee Cosmetics Inc., 151 Kalmus Dr., Suite H3, Costa Mesa, CA 92626
Amoresse Labs, 4121 Buchana St., Riverside, CA 92503
Amway, 7575 E. Fulton St., Ada, MI 49355-0001
*The Ananda Collection, 14618 Tyler Foote Rd., Nevada City, CA 95959
Ancient Formulas, Inc., P.O. Box 1313, Wichita, KS 67206
Andrea International Industries, 2220 Gaspar Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90040
An-Tech, 201 N. Figueroa, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Aramis Inc., 767 Fifth Ave., New York, NY 10153
Arbonne International Inc., 15 Argonaut St., Aliso Viejo, CA 92656
Ardell International, 2220 Gaspar Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90040
Arizona Natural Resources, 2525 E. Beardsley Rd., Phoenix, AZ 85027
*Aromaland Inc., Rt. 20, Box 29 AL, Santa Fe, NM 87501
Aroma Vera Co., 5901 Rodeo Rd., Los Angeles, CA 90016-4312
*Astonish Industries, 423 Commerce Ln., Unit 2, Berlin, NJ 08091
*ATMOSA Brand Aromatherapy Products, 1420 Fifth Ave., 22nd Fl., Seattle, WA 98101-2378
Aubrey Organics, 4419 N. Manhattan Ave., Tampa, FL 33614
Aunt Bee's Skin Care, P.O. Box 21127, Albuquerque, NM 87154
*Aura Cacia, P.O. Box 399, 716 Main St., Weaverville, CA 96093
*Aroma International, P.O. Box 1008, Silver Lake, WI 53170
*Auromere Ayurvedic Imports, 2621 W. Hwy. 12, Lodi, CA 91768
The Austrailian College Of Herbal Studies, P.o. box 57, Lake Oswego, OR 97035
Autumn-Harp Inc., P.O. Box 267, Bristol, VT 05443
*Avanza Corp., 11818 Marino St., Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730
Aveda, 4000 Pheasant Ridge Rd., Blaine, MN 55434
*Avigal Henna, 45-49 Davis St., Long Island City, NY 11101
Avon, 9 W. 57th St., New York, NY 10019
*Ayurherbal Corp., P.O. Box 1008, Silver Lake, WI 53170
*Ayurveda Holistic Center, 82A Bayville Ave., Bayville, NY 11709
*Ayus/Oshadhi, 15 Monarch Bay Plaza, Suite 346, Monarch Beach, CA 92629
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Barbizon International Inc., 1900 Glades Rd., Suite 300, Boca Raton, FL 33431
*Bare Escentuals, 600 Townsend St., Suite 329-E, San Francisco, CA 94103
*Basically Natural, 109 E. G Street, Brunswick, MD 21716
*Basic Elements Hair Care System, Inc., 505 S. Beverly Dr., Suite 1292, Beverly Hills, CA 90212
Basis (Beiersdorf), BDF Plaza, 360 Martin Luther King Dr., Norwalk, CT 06856
Bath & Body Works, 97 W. Main St., New Albany, OH 43054
Bath Island, Inc., 469 Amsterdam Ave, New York, NY 10024
Baudelaire, Inc., Forest Rd., Marlow, NH 03456
Beauticontrol Cosmetics, 3311-400 Boyington, Carrollton, TX 75006
Beauty Naturally, P.o. Box 4905, 859 Cowan Rd., Burlingame, CA 94010
*Beauty Without Cruelty, P.O. Box 750428, Petaluma, CA 94975-0425
Beehive Botanicals, Inc., Rt.8, Box 8257, Hayward, WI 54843
Beiersdorf, Inc., (Nivea, Eucerin, Basis), BDF Plaza, 360 Martin Luther King Dr., Norwalk, CT 06856
Bella's Secret Garden, 1601 Emerson Ave., Channel Islands, CA 94975-0428
Belle Star, Inc., 23151 Alcalde #C11, Laguna Hills, CA 92658
Berol, (Sanford Corp.), 2711 Washington Blvd., Bellwood, IL 60104
Beverly Hills Cold Wax, P.O. Box 600476, San Diego, CA 92160
Beverly Hills Cosmetic Group, 289 S. Robertson Blvd. #461, Beverly Hills, CA 90211
Bill Blass (Revlon), 625 Madison Ave., New York, NY 10022
*BioFilm, Inc., 3121 Scott St., Vista, CA 92083
*Biogime, 1665 Townhurst #100, Houston, TX 77043
*Bi-O-Kleen, Inc., P.O. Box 407, Union, ME 04862
Biokosma, (Caswell-Massey), 121 Field Crest Ave., Edison, NJ 08818
*Bio Pac, RR #1, Box 407, Union, ME 04862
Bio-Tec Cosmetics Inc., 92 Sherwood Ave., Toronto, Ontario M4P 2A7 Canada
Biotone, 4564 Alvarado Canyon Rd. #1, San Diego, CA 92120
Black Pearl Gardens, 425 S. main St., Franklin, OH 45005
Bo-Chem Co., Little Harbor, Marblehead, MA 01945
Body Encounters, 604 Manor Rd., Cinnamon, NJ 08077
Bodyography, 10250 Santa Monica Blvd., Suite 305, Los Angeles, CA 90067
The Body Shop Inc., P.O. Box 1409, Wake Forest, NC 27588
*Body Suite, 874 Center St., San Luis Obispo, CA 93401
Body Time (formerly The Body Shop), 1341 Seventh St., Berkeley, CA 94710
Bon Ami/Faultless Starch, 480 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64106-1209
Bonne Belle, 18579 Detroit Ave., Lakewood, OH 44107
Borlind of Germany, P.O. Box 130, New London, NH 03357
*Botan Corporation, 7760 Romaine St., W. Hollywood, CA 90046
*Botanics Skin Care, 3001 South State #29, Ukiah, CA 95482
Botanicus Retail, 7610 T. Rickenbacker Dr., Gaithersburg, MD 20879
*Brocato International, 7650 Currell Blvd., Suite 240, Woodburg, MN 55125
Bronson Pharmaceuticals, 1945 Craig Rd., St. Louis, MO 63146
Bronzo Sensuale, 954 41st St., Suite 202, Miami, FL 33140
*Brookside Soap Company, P.O. Box 55638, Seattle, WA 98156
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CAERAN, 25 Penny La., Brantford, Ontario N3R 5Y5 Canada
California Skin Therapy, 1100 Glendon Ave., Suite 1250, Los Angeles, CA 90024
CamoCare Camomile Skin Care Products, 130 E. 93rd St., New York, NY 10128
*Candy Kisses Natural Lip Balm, 16 E. 40th St., 12th Fl., New York, NY 10016
Carina Supply Inc., 464 Granville St., Vancouver, B.C. V6C 1V4
The Caring Catalog, 7678 Sagewood Dr., Huntington Beach, Ca 92468
Carison Laboratories, 15 College Dr., Arlington Heights, IL 60004
Carma Laboratories, 5801 W. Airways Ave., Franklin, WI 53132
Carter's Naturals, 3A Hamilton Business Park, Dover, NJ 07801
Caswell-Massey, 121 Field Crest Ave., Edison, NJ 07801
Celestial Body, 21298 Pleasant Hill Rd., Boonville, MO 65233
Chanel, Inc., 9 W. 57th St., New York, NY 10019
Charles of the Ritz, 625 Madison Ave., New York, NY 10022
Chatoyant Pearl Cosmetics, P.O. Box 526, Townsend, WA 98368
Chica Bella, Inc., Interlink 580, P.O. Box 02-5635, Miami, FL 33152
*CHIP Distribution Co., 8321 Croydon Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90045
Christian Dior, 9 W. 57th St., New York, NY 10019
Christian Valmy Inc., 285 Change Bridge Rd., Pine Brook, NJ 07058
Chuckles Inc., 59 March Ave., Manchester, NH 03103
CiCi Cosmetics, 9500 Jefferson Blvd., Culver City, CA 90232
Cinema Secrets, Inc., 4400 Riverside Dr., Burbank, CA 91505
*Citius USA, Inc., 120 Interstate N. Pkwy., E., Suite 106, Atlanta, GA 30339
Citre Shine, 151 Kalmus Dr., Suite H3, Costa Mesa, CA 92626
Clarins of Paris, 135 E. 57th St., New York, NY 10022
*Clearly Natural Products, Box 750024, Petaluma, CA 94975
*Clear Vue Products Inc., P.O. Box 567, 417 Canal St., Lawrence, MA 01842
Cleopatra's Secret, 130 W. 25th St., 10th Fl., New York, NY 10001
Clientele, 5207 N.W. 163rd St., Miami, FL 33014
Clinique Laboratories, 767 Fifth Ave., New York, NY 10153
Color & Herbal Co., P.O. Box 5370, Newport Beach, CA 92662
*Colorations, 6500 McDonough Dr. #D4, Norcross, GA 30093
Color Me Beautiful, 14000 Thunderbolt Place, Suite E, Chantilly, VA 22021
Color My Image, 5025B Backlick Rd., Annandale, VA 22003
Columbia Cosmetics Mfg., 1661 Timothy Dr., San Leandro, CA 94577
Come To Your Senses, 321 Cedar Ave. S., Minneapolis, MN 55454
Comfort Mfg. Co., 1056 W. Van Buren St., Chicago, IL 60607
Common Scents, 134 Main St., Port Jefferson, NY 11777
Compar, Inc., 70 East 55th St., New York, NY 10022
The Compassionate Consumer, P.O. Box 27, Jericho, NY 11753
Compassionate Cosmetics, P.O. Box 3534, Glendale, CA 91201
Compassion Matters, P.O. Box 3614, Jamestown, NY 14702-3614
Conair ( Jheri Redding), 1 Cummings Point Rd., Stamford, CT 06904
Concept Now Cosmetics (CNC), 10200 Pioneer Blvd. #100, Santa Fe Springs, CA 90670
Cosmyl Inc., 1 Cosmyl Place, Columbus, GA 31907
*Cot `N Wash, Inc., 502 The Times Bldg., Ardmore, PA 19003
Country Comfort, 28537 Nuevo Valley Dr., Nuevo, CA 92567
*Country Save Corp., 3410 Smith Ave., Everett, WA 98201
*Countryside Fragrances, Pacific First Centre, 1420 Fifth Ave., 22nd Fl., Seattle, WA 98101-2378
Crabtree & Evelyn, Peake Brook Rd., Box 167, Woodstock, CT 06281
Crebel International, 4401 Ponce de Leon Blvd., Coral Gables, FL 33146
Creighton's Naturally, 11243-4 St. Johns Ind. Pkwy. S., Jacksonville, FL 32246
Creme de la Terre, 30 Cook Rd., Stamford, CT 06902
*Crown Royale Ltd., P.O. Box 5238, 99 Broad St., Phillipsburg, NJ 08865
*CYA Products Inc., 211 Robbins La., Syosset, NY 11791
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*Davidoff Fragrences, 745 Fifth Ave., 10th Fl., New York, NY 10151
Decleor USA, Inc., 500 West Ave., Stamford, CT 06902
*Deodorant Stones Of America, 9420 E. Doubletree Ranch Rd., Unit 101, Scottsdale, AZ 85258
Dep Corporation, 2101 E. Via Arado, Rancho Dominguez, CA 90220-6189
Derma-E, 9400 Lurline Ave. #C-1, Chatsworth, CA 91311
Dermatologica (International Dermal Institute, Dermal Products), 1001 Knox
St., Torrance, CA 90502
Dermatologic Cosmetic Laboratory, 360 Sackett Point Rd., North Haven, CT 06473
Desert Essence, 9480 Vassar Ave., Unit A, Chatsworth, CA 91311
Desert Naturels, 83-612 Ave. 45, Suite 5, Indio, CA 92201
DeSoto, Inc., 900 E. Washington St., P.O. Box 609, Joliet, IL 60434
Diamond Brands, Inc., 1660 S. Highway 100, Suite 340, Minneapolis, MN 55416
Dr. A. C. Daniels, Inc., 109 Worcester Rd., Webster, MA 01570
*Dr. Bronner's "All One" Products, P.O. Box 28, Escondido, CA 92025
Dr. Hauschka Cosmetics USA Inc., 59C North St., Hatfield, MA 01038
*D.R.P.C.(AmerAgain), 567-1 S. Leonard St., Waterbury, CT 06708
Earth Friendly Products, P.O. Box 607, Wood Dale, IL 60191
Earthly Matters, 2719 Phillips Hwy., Jax, FL 32207
Earth Science23705 Via Del Rio, Yorba Linda, CA 92687-2717
*Earth Solutions, Inc., 427 Moreland Ave. #100, Atlanta, GA 30307
Eberhard Faber (Sanford Corp.), 2711 Washington Blvd., Bellwood, IL 60104
E. Burnham Cos., 7117 N. Austin Ave., Niles, IL 60714
Ecco Bella Botanicals, 1133 Route 23, Wayne, NJ 07470
EcoDent (formerly American Merfluan), 3130 Spring St., Redwood City, CA 94063
Eco Design Co., 1365 Rufina Cir., Santa Fe, NM 87501
Ecover Products, Carpenter Rd., P.O. Box SS, Philmont, NY 12565
Edward & Sons Trading Co., P.O. Box 1326, Carinteria, CA 93014
Elizabeth Grady Face First, 200 Boston Ave., Suite 3500, Medford, MA 02155
Elizabeth Van Buren Aromatherapy, Box 7542, 303 Potrero St. #33, Santa Cruz, CA 95061
Elvira's Halloween Cosmetics, P.O. Box 48046, Hollywood, CA 90038
Enfasi Hair Care, 2937 S. Alameda St., Los Angeles, CA 90058
English Ideas, 3 Cavalier, Laguna Beach, CA 92677
Epilady International, Inc., 39 Cindy La., Ocean, NJ 07712-7249
*Espial Corp., 7045 S. Fulton St. #200, Englewood, CO 80112-3700
*Essential Aromatics, 205 N. Signal St., Ojai, CA 93023
The Essential Oil Co., P.O. Box 206, Lake Oswego, OR 97034
*Essential Products of America, 5018 N. Hubert Ave., Tampa, FL 33614
Estee Lauder ( Clinique, Origins ), 767 Fifth Ave., New York, NY 10153
Eucerin (Beiersdorf), BDF Plaza, 360 Martin Luther King Dr., Norwalk, CT 06856
European Gold, 33 SE 11th St., Grand Rapids, MN 55744
*EuroZen, 10 S. Franklin Tpk. #201, Ramsey, NJ 07446
Eva Jon Cosmetics, 1016 E. California St., Gainsville, TX 76240
Evans International, 14 E. 15th St., Richmond, VA 23224-0189
Everybody Ltd., 1175 Walnut St., Boulder, CO 80302
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The Face Food Shoppe, 195 Bruce Hill Rd., Cumberland, ME 04021
Faces by Gustavo, 1200 N. Veitch St., Suite 1243, Arlington, VA 22201
Facets/Crystalline Cosmetics, 8436 N. 80th Pl., Scottsdale, AZ 85258
*Faith in Nature, Unit 5, Kay St., Bury, Lancashire BL9 6BU England
Faith Products, Ltd., Unit 5, Kay St., Bury, Lancashire BL9 6BU England
Farmavits USA, P.O. Box 5126, Manchester, NH 03109
Faultless Starch (Bon Ami), 480 Walnut st., Kansas City, MO 64106
Fernand, Aubry, Paris, 14 rue Alexandre Parodi, 75010 Paris, France
Finelle Cosmetics, 137 Marston St., Lawrence, MA 01841-2297
Fleabusters/Rx for Fleas, Inc., 6555 NW Ninth Ave., Suite 412, Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33309
Flex ( Revlon), 625 Madison Ave., New York, NY 10022
*Flower Essences of Running Fox Farm, P.O. Box 381, Worthington, MA 01098
Focus 21 International, 2755 Dos Aaarons Way, Vista, CA 92803
Food Lion, P.O. Box 1330, Salisbury, NC 28145-1330
Forest Essentials, 385 Bel Marin Keys Blvd., Suite H, Novato, CA 94947
Forever Living Products, P.o> Box 29041, Phoenix, AZ 85038
*Forever New International, 4791 N. Fourth Ave., Sioux Falls, SD 57104-0403
For Pets Sake Enterprises, Inc., 3730 Eastway Rd., Suite 10A, S. Euclid, OH 44118
*Fort Howard Corp., P.o. Box 19130, Green Bay, WI 54307-9130
IV Trail Products, P.O. Box 1033, Sykesville, MD 21784
Fragrance Impressions Ltd., 116 Knowlton St., Bridgeport, CT 0860
Framesi, USA, Inc., 400 Chess St., Coraopolis, PA 14808
*Frank T. Ross (Nature Clean), 6550 Lawrence Ave. E., Scarborough, Ontario M1E 4R5 Canada
Freeda Vitamins, Inc., 36 E. 41st St., New York, NY 10017
Freeman Cosmetic Corporation, Box 4074, Beverly Hills, CA 90213
*Free Spirit Enterprises, 2064 Dennis La., Santa Rosa, CA 94803
Frontier Cooperative Herbs, 3021 78th St., P.O. Box 299, Norway, IA 52318
Fruit of the Earth, P.O. Box 152044, Irving, TX 75015-2044
Garden Botanika, 8624 154th Ave. NE, Redmond, WA 98052
Georgette Klinger, Inc., 501 Madison Ave., New York, NY 10022-5699
Gigi Laboratories, 2220 Gaspar Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90040
Giovanni Cosmetics, 5415 Tweedy Blvd., Southgate, CA 90280
Golden Pride/Rawleigh, 1501 Northpoint Pkwy., W. Palm Beach, FL 83407
Goldwell Cosmetics (USA), 9050 Junction Dr., Annapolis Junction, MD 20701
*Green Ban, P.O. Box 146, Norway, IA 52318
Green Earth Office Supply, P.O. Box 719, Redwood Estates, CA 95044
Greentree Laboratories, Inc., P.O. Box 425, Tustin, CA 92681
*Greenway Products, P.O. Box 183, Port Townsend, WA 98368
Gryphon Development, 767 Fifth Ave., New York, NY 10153
Gucci Parfums, 15 Executive Blvd., Orange, CT 06477
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Halo Purely for Pets, 3438 E. Lake Rd. #14, Palm Harbor, FL 34685
Halston Borghese Inc. (Princess Marcella Borghese), 767 Fifth Ave., 49th Fl., New York, NY 10153-0002
Hard Candy, Inc., 110 N. Doheny Dr., Beverly Hills, CA 90211
*Hargen Distributing Inc., 3422 W. Wilshire Rd., Suite 13, Phoenix, AZ 85034
*Harvey Universal, 1805 W. 208th St., Torrance, CA 90501
*Healthy Times, 461 Vernon Way, El Cajon, CA 92020
Helen Lee Skin Care & Cos., 205 E. 60th St., New York, NY 10022
Henri Bendel, ( The Limited), 712 Fifth Ave., New York, NY 10019
Herbal Products & Development, Box 1084, A[ptos, CA 95001
*The Herb Garden, P.O. Box 773-P, Pilot Mountain, NC 27041
*h.e.r.c., Inc., 3622 N. 34th Ave., Phoenix, AZ 85017
Heritage Store, P.O. Box 444, Virginia Beach, VA 23458
Hewitt Soap Co.. 333 Linden Ave., Dayton, OH 44803
Hobe Laboratories , Inc., 4032 E. Broadway, Phoenix, AZ 85040
Homebody (Perfumoils, Inc.), 143A Main St., Brattleboro, VT 05301
Home Health Products, P.O. Box 8425, Virginia Beach, VA 23450
*Home Service Products Co., P.O. Box 245, Pittstown, NJ 08867
House of Cheriss, 13475 Holiday Dr., Saratoga, CA 95070
H2O Plus L.P., 676 N. Michigan Ave., Suite 3900, Chicago, IL 60611
Huish Detergents, Inc., 3480 W. 1987 South, Salt Lake City, UT 84104
Ida Grae (Nature's Colors Cosmetics), 424 La Verne Ave., Mill Valley, CA 94941
Il-Makiage, 107 E. 60th St., New York City, NY 10022
Ilona, 3201 E. 2nd Ave., Denver, CO 80206
Image Laboratories, 2340 Eastman Ave., Oxnard, CA 93030
i natural cosmetics (cosmetic Source), 3202 Queens Blvd., Long Island City, NY 11101
*Innovative Formulations, Inc., 1810 S. 6th Ave., Tucson, AZ 85713
*International Rotex, Box 20697, Reno, NV 89515
International Vitamin Corp., 209 40th St., Irvington, NJ 07111
Internatural, P.O. Box 1008, Silver Lake, WI 53170
*Invalco d/b/a Rudolfo Allasio, 3251 Corte Malpaso, Suite 504, Camarillo, CA 93021
IQ Products Co., 16212 State Hwy. 249, Houston, TX 77086
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Jacki's Magic Lotion, 258 A St. #7A, Ashland, OR 97520
James Austin Co., Box 827, 115 Downieville Rd., Mars, PA 16046-0827
Jason Natural Cosmetics, 8468 Warner Dr., Culver City, CA 90232
J.C. Garet Inc., 2471 Coral St., Vista, CA 92083
Jean Nate(, 625 Madison Ave., New York, NY 10022
Jeanne Rose Aromatherapy, 219 Carl St., San Francisco, CA 94117
Jessica McClintock Inc., 1400 16th St., San Francisco, CA 94103-5181
Jheri Redding (Conair), 1 Cummings Point Rd., Stamford, CT 06904
Joe Blasco Cosmetics, 7340 Greenbriar Pkwy., Orlando, FL 32819
John Amico Expressive Hair Care, 7327 W. 90th St., Bridgeview, IL 60455
*John Paul Mitchell Systems, 26455 Golden Valley Rd., Santa Clarita, CA 91350
*JOICO International, P.O. Box 42308, Los Angeles, CA 900242-0380
Jolen Creme Bleach, 25 Walls Dr., P.O. Box 458, Fairfield, CT 06430
*J.R. Liggett Ltd., RR2, Box 911, Cornish, NH 03745
Jurlique Cosmetics, 1411 Dresden Dr., Atlanta, GA 30319
Kallima International, 1802 Tobin Trail, Garland, TX 75043
Katonah Scentral, 51 Katonah Ave., Katonah, NY 10536
K.B. Products, 20 N. Railroad Ave., San Mateo, CA 94401
Kenic Pet Products, Inc., 109 S. Main St., Lawrenceburg, KY 40342
*Ken Lange No-Thio Perm. Waves, 7112 N. 15th Pl., Suite 1, Phoenix, AZ 85020
Kenra Laboratories, 6501 Julian Ave., Indianapolis, IN 46219
Kimberly Sayer, 125 W. 81st, #2A, New York, NY 10024
Kiss My Face, P.O. Box 224, 144 Main St., Gardiner, NY 12525
Kleen Brite Laboratories, Box 20408, Rochester, NY 14602
KMS Research, 4712 Mountain Lakes Blvd., Redding, CA 96003
*KSA Jojoba, 19025 Perthenia St. #200, Northridge, CA 91324
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LaCosta Products2875 Loker Ave. E., Carlsbad, CA 92008
*LaCrista, P.O. Box 240, Davidsonville, MD 21035
*LaNatura, 425 N. Bedford Drive, Beverly Hills, CA 90210
Lancaster Group, 745 Fifth Ave., New York, NY 10151
Lander Company, Inc., 106 Grand Ave., Englewood, NJ 07631
*L'anza Research International, 935 West Eighth St., Azusa, CA 91702
La Prairie, Inc., 31 W. 52nd St., New York, NY 10019
Lee Pharmaceuticals, 1444 Santa Anita Ave. S., El Monte, CA 91733
*Levlad/Nature's Gate, 9200 Mason Ave., Chatsworth, CA 91311
*Liberty Natural Products, Inc., 8120 SE Stock St., Portland, OR 97215
Life Dynamics, Inc., 21460 N. 19th Ave., Suite C101, Phoenix, AZ 85027
*Life Tree Products, P.O. Box 1203, Sebastopol, CA 95472
Lightning Products, 10100 N. Executive Hills Blvd., Suite 105, Kansas City, MO 64153
Lily of Colorado, P.O. Box 12471, Denver, CO 80212
Lime-O-Sol Co. (The Works), 101 S. Parker Dr., Ashley, IN 46705
Lisee Cosmetics, 2937 S. Alameda St., Los Angeles, CA 90058
Liz Claiborne Cosmetics, Inc., 1 Claiborne Ave., North Bergen, NJ 07047
*Lobob Laboratories, 1440 Atteberry La., San Jose, CA 95131-1410
Logona USA, Inc., 554-E Riverside Dr., Asheville, NC 28801
Lotus Light, P.O. Box 1008, Silver Lake, WI 53170
Louise Bianco Skin Care, Inc., 13655 Chandler Blvd., Sherman Oaks, CA 91401
M.A.C. Cosmetics, 233 Carlton St., 2nd Fl., Toronto, Ontario M5A 2L2 Canada
Magick Botanicals, 3412-K W. MacArthur Blvd., Santa Ana, CA 92704
The Magic of Aloe, 7300 N. Crescent Blvd., Pennssuken, NJ 08110
Mallory Pet Supplies, 118 Atrisco Pl. SW, Albuquerque, NM 87105
*Marcal Paper Mills, Inc., 1 Market St., Elmwood Park, NY 07407
Marche Image Corp., Box 1010, Bronxville, NY 10708
Marilyn Miglin Institute, 112 E. Oak St., Chicago, IL 60611
*Martin Von Myering, 422 Jay St., Pittsburgh, PA 15212
*Masada, P.O. Box 4767, North Hollywood, CA 91617-0767
Mastey de Paris, Inc., 25413 Rye Canyon Rd., Valencia, CA 91355
Mehron, Inc., 100 Red Schoolhouse Rd., Chestnut Ridge, NY 10977
Melaleuca, Inc., 3910 S. Yellowstone Hwy., Idaho Falls, ID 83402-6003
*Mere Cie, Inc., 1100 Soscol Rd. #3, Napa, CA 94558
Merle Norman Cos., 9130 Bellanca Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90069
*Mia Rose Products, 177-F Riverside Ave., Newport Beach, CA 92663
Michael's Health Products, 6820 Alamo Downa Pkwy., San Antonio, TX 78238
Michelle Lazar Cosmetics, 755 S. Lugo Ave., San Bernadino, CA 92408
*Micro Balanced Products, 25 Aladdin Ave., Dumont, NJ 07628
Mira Linder Spa in the City, 29935 Northwestern Hwy., Southfield, MI 48034
Montagne Jeunesse, The Old Grain Store, 4 Donne Rd., Horsham, W. Sussex RH12 1JE England
Monteil Paris, 745 Fifth Ave., New York, NY 10151
*Mother's Little Miracle, 930 Indian Peak Rd., Rolling Hills Estates, CA 90274
Mountain Ocean, P.O. Box 951, Boulder, CO 80306
Mr. Christal's, 1100 Glendon Ave., Suite 1250, Los Angeles, CA 90024
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Nadina's Cremes, 3600 Clipper Mill Suite 140, Baltimore, MD 21211
*Nala Barry Labs, P.O. Box 151, Palm Desert, CA 92261
Narwhale of High Tor Ltd., 591 S. Mountain Rd., New City, NY 10956
*Natracare, 191 University Blvd., Suite 129, Denver, CO 80206
Naturade Cosmetics, 7110 E. Jackson St., Paramount, CA 90723
Natural Animal Health Products, Inc., 7000 U.S. 1 North, St. Augustine, FL 32095
*Natural Bodycare, 511 Calle San pablo, Camarillo, CA 93010
Natural Chemistry, Inc., 244 Elm St., New Canaan, CT 06840
*Naturally Free, The Herbal Alt., Rt.2, Box 248C, Lexington, VA 24450
*Naturally Yours, Alex, P.O. Box 3398, Holiday, FL 34690-0398
Natural Organics, 548 Broadhollow Rd., Melville, NY 11747
*Natural Products Co., 7782 Newburg Rd., Newburg, PA 17240-9601
*Natural Research People Inc., South Route, Box 12, Lavina, MT 59046
*Natural Science, 41 Madison Ave., 4th Fl., New York, NY 10010
Natural (Surrey), 13110 Trails End Rd., Leander, TX 78641
*Natural Therapeutics Centre 2500 Side Cove, Austin, TX 78704
Natural Touch, P.O. Box 2894, Kirkland, WA 98083-2894
Natural Wonder, 625 Madison Ave., New York, NY 10022
Natural World, Inc., 88 Danbury Rd., Wilton, CT 06897
*Nature Cosmetics, 11818 San Marino St., Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730
*Nature de France, 100 Rose Ave., Hempstead, NY 11550
Nature's Acres, E. 8984 Weinke Rd., New Freedom, WI 53951
Nature's Best (Natural Research People), South Route., Box 12, Lavina, MT 59046
*Nature's Country Pet, 1765 Garnet Ave., Suite 12, San Diego, CA 92109
Nature's Gate (Levlad), 9200 Mason Ave., Chatsworth, CA 91311
Nature's Plus, 548 Broadhollow Rd., Melville, NY 11747
Nectarine, 1200 Fifth St., Berkeley, CA 94710
Nemesis Inc., 4525 Hiawatha Ave., Minneapolis, MN 54806
*Neocare Labs, 3333 W. Pacific Coast Hwy., 4th Fl., Newport Beaach, CA 92663
*New Age Products, 16200 N. Highway 101, Willits, CA 95490-9710
*Neway, Little Harbor, Marblehead, MA 01945
Neways, Inc. 150 E. 400 N. Salem, UT 84653
*New Moon Extracts, Inc., 99 Main St., Brattleboro, VT 05301
Nexxus, Box 1274, Santa Barbara, CA 93116
*Nirvana, P.O. Box 18413, Minneapolis, MN 55418
Nivea (Biersdorf), BDF Plaza, 360 Martin Luther King Dr., Norwalk, CT 06856
No Common Scents, King'S Yard, 220 Xenia Ave., Yellow Springs, OH 45387
Nordstrom Cosmetics, 865 Market St., San Francisco, CA 94103
Norelco, 1010 Washington Blvd., Stamford, CT 06912
North Country Soap, 7888 County Rd. #6, Maple Plain, MN 55359
N/R Laboratories, Inc., 900 E. Franklin St., Centerville, OH 45459
NuSkin International, 145 East Center, Provo, UT 84601
NutriBiotic, 865 Parallel Dr., Lakeport, CA 95453
*Nutri-Cell, Inc., 1038 N. Tustin, Suite 309, Orange, CA 92667-5958
Nutri-Metics International USA, Inc., 12723 E. 166th St., Cerritos, CA 90703
Nutrina Company, Inc., 1117 Foothill Blvd., La Canada, CA 91011
Mon, May 29, 2006 - 1:17 AMThanks!
Some of them - like tesco products - I think they just don't test cause they are buying stuff from other brands that already did all the testing.
Do you know anything about the brand Sukar? Sukar is a romany word it means beautiful. Sorry about being off the topic but I would be interested to know if there is actually a commercial brand of cosmetics sold by romany people or if its just a coincidence.
This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.Unsu...Sun, June 11, 2006 - 2:20 AMi dont use any regular store bought shampoo they all have bad nasty chemicals that are no good for you. I use organic that does not have sodium laurel sufate- bad chemical. Sometimes all i use is a whole egg and leave it on for a while up to an hour and rinse with vinegar then rinse with water.
Wed, May 31, 2006 - 1:14 AMNatalie wrote: "Of course, the annoying thing about Pantene (which does feel nice to use) is that it's tested on animals."
I am not buying Pantene anymore, ever again. Thanks for the info, I would rather know than not know.
Unsu...Mon, May 29, 2006 - 8:15 PMYour scalp will go through an adjustment period if you are a regular washer. But light conditioners are good enough to clean the scalp and the length of the hair. In fact (Salon?) did an article recently on how conditioner is good enough in place of shampoo, had the people at a long hair board I belong to quite surprised after we're repeatedly told how we need a billion products to have nice hair! But CO doesn't work for everyone though, just like everything else.
There's also CWC, which is where you coat the length of your hair with conditioner, then use a tiny amount of shampoo on your scalp. The conditioner protects the length of your hair. Then rinse and follow with conditioner. That always seemed excessive to me but plenty swear by it like I swear by CO.
Conditioner is all I use to remove heavy coconut oiling sessions, too. After I leave the oil in for up to 24 hours I slather on the conditioner, cover with a showercap for about 1/2 hour to an hour and then rinse.
Wed, May 31, 2006 - 1:16 AM"Conditioner is all I use to remove heavy coconut oiling sessions, too. After I leave the oil in for up to 24 hours I slather on the conditioner, cover with a showercap for about 1/2 hour to an hour and then rinse."
Wow, thanks for the info Jill. And your hair isn't oily afterwards? What kind of conditioner do you use again?
Mon, May 29, 2006 - 8:24 AMMy two favorite companies that make natural products aren't even on the list: Burt's Bees and Uncle Harry's. It might be because they are regional to the Northwest, I don't know. I know Uncle Harry's ships. www.uncleharrys.com has all kinds of non toxic products and it's a mom and pop operation, so I like that. They have an african black liquid soap that I LOVE.
Mon, May 29, 2006 - 8:34 PMI'm pretty amazed all I really might need is my Nature's Gate conditioner. When I don't wash my long hair for a day or 2, my roots look almost wet they are so greasy -- and that's no way to feeling pretty all day. It's hard to imagine this oiliness being an effect of over-shampooing. I start weening tomorrow! ~Thanks for those lists, everyone~
Tue, May 30, 2006 - 9:25 AMShampoo is very concentrated. I dilute mine with water, about 60% water to 40% shampoo. Lasts longer, I only need a splash to lather up. Also helps keep my henna from fading. I wash my hair every 2-3 days. Yes, I slather on conditioner too, also diluted 50-50 with water. And don't rinse to squeakly clean! Leave a little slickness, especially if you've got long hair.
Tue, May 30, 2006 - 10:32 AMi tried the conditioner only routine yesterday in the shower...
last night my hair was very soft, this morning my head is a grease pit and i am wearing a hat.
does it take time for your hair to adjust...cuz it's gross enough that i am about ready to go wash it.
i like the conditioner on the length and shampoo on the roots idea.
wow, thanks to those who posted those VERY long lists!
Wed, May 31, 2006 - 11:14 AMLaLa,
I stopped using shampoo almost 5 years ago, and for me it ws definitely a process of finding out what worked for me. When I first started trying I felt like I was suffocating from all the grease on my head. I think it generally takes 2 to 3 weeks for the scalp to start producing less oil. But it does happen! Your body is smart, and when it figures out that you aren't going to artificially strip all the oil out of your hair, it starts producing less.
There is some technique involved... When you get your hair lightly coated with conditioner, squeeze your hair between your fingers up close the scalp and then slide your fingers down the length of your hair. This spreads your natural oils along the whole hair shaft and leaves hair clean and moisturized.
Give it time... I wore alot of hats and bandanas in the beginning...
Wed, May 31, 2006 - 4:30 PMI'm still looking for a homemade shampoo recipe. Because I workout 4-6 days a week, I sweat a lot - water and conditioner is sometimes not enough, especially when I swim, so I shampoo 3 days a week or so. I rarely let the shampoo touch the ends of my hair. Its long enough (mid back) that I can just shampoo the scalp area only.
Wed, May 31, 2006 - 6:30 PMIn high school I always washed my hair with castile soap. I could get a huge bottle for a couple of bucks - it was a gallon, I think, and lasted forever. It left my hair baby soft and very wavy. I had forgotten all about that. I'm going to try this.
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Thu, June 1, 2006 - 4:54 PMSorry it's not made in my home. But it is made in the Dr.'s home who I get it from. It's all natural with good essential oils that make my hair smell and feel great.
Like I said, it's what I would make if she didn't make it.
I think it's great and thought I'd share it.
Almost every cleaning and beauty product in my home is made in my home. Making stuff at home is the best, most of the time...
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Sat, June 3, 2006 - 3:02 AMRose--
I'm sorry you felt the need to kill the post as well, esspecially since in the thread where I think the topic of "what to post or *not* to post" was brought up as a bone of contention by an induvidual, I percieved in the majority of the thread that it was a general concencus within most of the group that many people didn't mind posts that contained info about products. My impression has been that people here were looking not only for homemade beauty remedies, but also for natural options or products homemade by other people as well. When I signed up for this tribe a loooooooong time ago, I believe that was something that was written into the description: along with it being a place for homemade remedies it also said something about *natural* options, and being a place to share information. Has that since been changed? Why? And where else on tribe am I going to be able to find that info since that's part of the reason I signed up for this one in the first place?
I am very saddened and a bit disturbed by the thought that censorship is going to start being a regular part of this tribe, which up till now has been my favorite on tribe.net. Although I don't agree with everything I've read here, I have an awful lot of respect for the wealth of knowledge and information possesed by the members of this tribe.
I respect the fact that being a moderator, or overseer, in a situation and having to censor something does have a time and a place, which for me have been when something is slanderous, exhibits prejudice, or is known to cause harm to others (or self as the case may be). Being a moderator of a few tribes I try to keep in mind that I can't really control what the tribe is going to do overall. I can try to direct the flow but that doesn't change that it will be what it is meant to be. Not to bring politics into this, but I come here to get away from being dictated to. The openenss to hearing what other people have to say or offer, even if it is not agreed with, is something I look forward to about tribe. The diversity found in the posts is something I love about this place. Kind of like "Take a little, leave a little, and there will always be a little." :-)
Just my 2 cents, I hope I'm heard.
Sat, June 3, 2006 - 5:22 PM"When I signed up for this tribe a loooooooong time ago, I believe that was something that was written into the description: along with it being a place for homemade remedies it also said something about *natural* options, and being a place to share information. Has that since been changed? Why? And where else on tribe am I going to be able to find that info since that's part of the reason I signed up for this one in the first place?"
I don’t know what kind of rules or guidelines were in place when this tribe started (or when you joined). I am relatively new to this to this tribe and when I joined and became moderator, my understanding that we were to discuss homemade items, not store brought, no matter how natural they are. I'm not saying this should be the case period, but that was my understanding the "Homemade Beauty Remedies" tribe.
"I'm sorry you felt the need to kill the post as well, esspecially since in the thread where I think the topic of "what to post or *not* to post" was brought up as a bone of contention by an induvidual, I percieved in the majority of the thread that it was a general concencus within most of the group that many people didn't mind posts that contained info about products."
I regret that I did not read that part of the thread. Though I know I cant read all things all the time, this is something that I should have saw or at least had it pointed out to me. At any rate, it still seems not everyone agree with it. Even if we allow discussion of commercial products, where do we draw the line? I know most people don’t make castile soap or harvest and process their own coconut oil. Should this tribe be renamed "Homemade and Natural Beauty Remedies"? Only the discussion of homemade and natural commercial products? And even with the commercial products, what if people go from talking about Aubrey Organics to Suave? Should posts discussing products with potentially harmful and non natural ingredients not be censored? In whos opinion? Censorship is necessary to a point, even if posters are not being trolls, disrespectful, etc. Sometimes content should be.
Help me out here, because though I know not everyone will be pleased with the tribe, I dont want anyone to feel pushed out either.
Sun, June 4, 2006 - 12:45 AMRose, I totally understand where you're coming from. After I got offline last night I thought even more about the situation because you're right, the question really is where to draw the line. I think back to posts about people using Miracle Whip as an exfoliating face mask: it is a product that was bought, not homemade, and it's not natural in *any* way, but I also understand why it was posted here because it's not the intended use of the product, it's being used a different way, as a home beauty product so to speak--although I don't think I'll try that one because it scares me. :-) Then there are the natural products people find and share info about, then there are the essentially "homemade" products made by other people availible for other people who don't have the time or resources to make the stuff themselves. Even though some may feel all these things I just cited don't belong here I personally feel like all this is valuable info and things some people *are* looking to find here (even if it's not me), but your right, with all that going on and different people looking for different things and having different expectations not everyone is going to be completely 100% happy. For myself I don't mind ignoring the posts that contain info I'm not interested in to get to the info I am, so I'm of the opinion the more info the better, even if I do have to wade through a bunch of stuff I find annoying, to me it's worth it. I'm not 100% happy but it's a compromise I make in order to have access to the info I'm interested in.
Sun, June 4, 2006 - 12:56 PMI am really trying to make everything i can myself and i think so do most of the people here. If I can't - for some reason - make something (like in this case, shampoo) then I am looking for things as simple and natural as possible. I don't mind paying for it and I don't mind if someone else makes it. I don't mind if it's a product with a name or not as long as I feel I can trust it, it is natural, good for me, good for the environment, etc. If someone here has some information that can help me live a more natural and healthy live, PLEASE don't censor and delete the posts. I really really like this tribe and sometimes some discussions NEED to go a bit beyond homemade things if it helps overall with our goal and to clear out some questions. So please, pleaselet's not get all too strict with the rules here, this tribe is the best, there is nothing going wrong with it, lets keep it that way!!
Sun, June 4, 2006 - 1:45 PMOk, I am with completely with Sandra on this one.
What is wrong with sharing information about products that might help us in our quest to find natural or cheaper and easier options to beauty or body care? Not everyone can whip up a batch of organic shampoos or emollients. I live in a studio apartment, I have no counter space. Its not like I can keep a vat of organic beeswax f(rom the hive I have on my window sill) or somesuch on the constant boil on my stove.
If someone shares with us that miracle whip on my face can help me save a bunch of money,time, and help my skin in some way,I AM THRILLED. Cause miracle whip is cheap and most likely I have some on hand. Or yogurt,or wine ect. One can even find an organic version of miricle whip if one wants to. Or maybe say.." If you think Miracle whip is good, then you should try this ( insert even niftier idea here)"
I am in this tribe for that kind of stuff. I think there is room for the "Make all your own stuff" crowd, and the" Hey look what i found in the fridge and guess what it does!" crowd. Its a big tribe, and I learn from both groups of thought.
If deletions, censoring and restrictions of exactly what information and knowledge we can share in the constructs of homemade beauty ideas and recipes is the way things are going , then I guess this isnt the tribe I should or can be a part of anymore.
That being said- let me also say..
This is one of my favorite and most informative tribes,there is some many awesome tips I have learned from you all. I truly appreciate it.
Sun, June 4, 2006 - 1:56 PMI love this tribe...
On this subject - where do we draw the line? If I use coffee grounds as a facial scrub, does that mean I have to go pick my own beans and roast them first before I can use them, otherwise it's not homemade? Because if that's the case - I'm not going there.
Honey - do I need to have my own bees? Grow my own olives and press my own oil? Ditto.
Even the word "natural" can have some variance - different meanings for different folks - some might say that only organic, vegan ingredients should be included, while for me the definition is a bit - looser.
If this was my own personal tribe, and I was the moderator and made all the rules (because that's what the moderator gets to do), I would allow anything homemade, anything simple, anything out of the fridge or pantry (yes, that would include Miracle Whip) and anything storebought and handy if no reasonable way exists for me to make it in my own home. So that would mean I could buy coffee beans already roasted, olive oil in a bottle, even castile soap. And, if someone found some really fantastic, natural yet commercial product that would be really hard to make at home, an occasional recommendation would not upset me.
Sun, June 4, 2006 - 7:19 PM"If someone here has some information that can help me live a more natural and healthy live, PLEASE don't censor and delete the posts. I really really like this tribe and sometimes some discussions NEED to go a bit beyond homemade things if it helps overall with our goal and to clear out some questions. So please, pleaselet's not get all too strict with the rules here, this tribe is the best, there is nothing going wrong with it, lets keep it that way!!"
Fine, I'm not going to rock the boat. To avoid further ambush (on me), have the tribe as you see fit.
Mon, June 5, 2006 - 12:32 AMI agree, no dog piling the moderator!
On that note, I think people may have misunderstood my last post--or I'm being agreed with in a way that *I* don't understand. :-) I kind of feel like some people only read bits and pieces of what I said, rather than the whole thing, and responded completely out of context of what was being discussed. The whole reason I responded the way I did was because I was relating to the moderator and the position she's in, which is a hard one.
Rose, I am sorry if you feel like this is becoming personal, that was defiantely not my intention.
I think Rose has been doing a good job trying to hear what people are saying opinion-wise in this tribe, and I don't think it's very helpful or constructive to go after her personally when she's working so hard at trying to work *with* us, not against us (I'll refer back to the point that the whole reason she deleted that *one* post in the first place was in response to what another member had to say). Let's give her the same in kind because, as she has made very clear, she does want our input.
Tue, June 6, 2006 - 11:19 AMWow. I was gone for a few days and there has been lots of action. It is good to see that we can all be heard.
I was only trying to share something that has saved my hair and saved me having to use toxic chemicals. That shampoo is Goddess sent as far as I'm concerned. Dreadlocks in the jungle can be a recipe for disaster!
I felt a little bummed having the info deleted because I think it is as pure and natural a product as you can get.
It also was a little ironic and funny to me because I don't use anything on my body I couldn't eat.
And, I only eat good stuff. So, I make just about everything. And, I love this tribe. I am on here most days and really value everyone's input.
If someone mentions using something that I wouldn't use I don't care. But, I wouldn't want us to get over run with store bought items either. So, I do see the difficult task Rose has. Thanks Rose!
I just don't think it's a big deal if someone mentions a purchased product that is pure and truly natural. Especially if it can really help people. And, especially if it is made in someone else's home or in some other un-mass produced way.
So, hopefully these things can be determined on a case by case basis.
We don't have to just have a blanket censoring policy for all purchased items. ( Do we? )
We all buy stuff to make our home made beauty remedies.
Anyhow, I appreciate you all and all your input.
Back to the subject: I don't use conditioner. Just a scalp oil I make with neem, lavender, and rosemary in jojoba.
Unsu...Sun, June 4, 2006 - 6:33 AMRose gave a website under another post: www.fromnaturewithlove.com. They carry liquid castile soap and liquid organic aloe castille soap in their bath and skin care bases section. They seem reasonably priced. Either could make a great base for a homemade shampoo. Castile soap is very concentrated. I plan to add some very strong rosemary tea and a little peppermint EO to mine.
Thu, June 1, 2006 - 6:15 PMyou can use vinegar, it will clean the hair and give it shine.Apple cider vinegar..its great for alot of things..You can also use baking soda and water to take off build up...but vinegar really gives it a shine. you can dilute it with water a little foer the smell.
Thu, June 1, 2006 - 9:42 PMFrom "Beauty and the East" (note: I haven't tried these yet myself. All information is from the book). These look like the easiest to make:
- Old Persian shamoo: Boil leaves and roots of nettle, wild marjoram, and sage (no directions on application given)
- High-protein shampoo: Separate the yolk and white of an egg, whist the white and fold the two together. Massage into hair and leave it on for a few minutes. Rinse off with tepid water (not hot or you'll get scrambled eggs).
- From Tahiti: Wash with sandalwood-scented coconut oil
- Fom the Caribbean: aloe vera. It creates a good lather, adds sheen and acts as a partial sunscreen. Allow to dry on hair, then rinse out.
- Dry shampoo: Cover a brush with muslin sprinkled with rose or other floral water. Give your hair a good brushing, forcing the bristles through the material.
Mon, June 5, 2006 - 10:12 AMI never understood why researchers test shampoo on animals. For starters, we do not have the same hair texture as animals. Our hair and the hair on MOST animals do not even grow the same... I know mine doesn't.
I am so happy that some people have posted that they use conditioner rather then shampoo. i been trying this because the shampoo dries out my hair completely and I know I need a good washing every three days but am so mad to wash out the natural oils that my scalp builds up , so instead, I been doing shampoo only once a month and conditioner instead , mostly every three days. My hair shines and the natural oil makes it bouncy. The shampoo totally dries out hair.
Any good remedies for home made conditioners???
Mon, June 5, 2006 - 11:25 AMLady,
Sadly, I don't believe they test it on animals to see if it makes their hair soft and shiny, so it doesn't make a bit of difference what kind of coat they have.
They test in in their eyes to see if it makes them go blind. They see if it causes cancer by ingestion. And so on.....
Tue, June 13, 2006 - 10:11 AMif you want something out of the garden type your ahould try hibiscus leaf. Crush the leaves a bit then boil for about 20 minutes. . . you will get a gooey gel type liquid. Strain it, cool it and then use it in your hair as a shampoo. . . it lathers rather nicely.
Thu, June 15, 2006 - 12:36 PMI have not tried the dried and from the recipies I have found they all require the leaves to be fresh because they still have the essence of the plant's own water. You would be very surprised how clean your hair gets with this brew. . . it lathers up really nicely.