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Re: Fire in the Hole - The Truth About Ear Candling
Fri, January 18, 2008 - 8:02 AMnever do it personally, but know lots that SWEAR by it! they say it is amazing the stuff that comes out
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Re: Fire in the Hole - The Truth About Ear Candling
Fri, January 18, 2008 - 9:44 AMI think it's fairly common and has been around for awhile. I've done it a few times without any problem. you'd be amazed at the crap it pulls out. your ears may be sensitive afterwards (to cold and loud noises). and it's important that you don't hold the candle straight up or the ashes may fall back into your ear. you need to keep the candle at an angle and use a pie plate thing to catch the ashes. it's easiest if you have a partner.
I've never heard anyone say it's "dangerous" or problematic. seriously, the worst you can do is set your hair on fire. ;) now, it's stupid to do it if you have ear infection or other issues. and don't do something stupid like put your fingers and other objects in your ears afterward, opening yourself up to bacteria and infections. but otherwise all it does is remove wax from the ear. and it's a lot less invasive than when a doctor flushes water INTO your ear to remove wax. the candle gently pulls it OUT. you can even do just half a candle if you're concerned about removing too much.
my friend had issues with wax buildup causing hearing problems and the candling was helpful.
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Re: Fire in the Hole - The Truth About Ear Candling
Fri, January 18, 2008 - 11:39 AMI have candled all my kids ears. Now they know the feeling of too much wax in their ears and will ask have their ears "done". -
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Re: Fire in the Hole - The Truth About Ear Candling
Fri, January 18, 2008 - 4:45 PMI love it, and have done it many times...I poke a hole in a paper plate to put the candle through so that no ash falls on the person's head...this remonds me that I haven't done this in way too long! Definitely hold it at an angle.
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Re: Fire in the Hole - The Truth About Ear Candling
Fri, January 18, 2008 - 6:03 PMfrom an ayurvedic standpoint, if you don't like ear-candles, try warmed oil, (depends on your dosha what kind-sesame for vata and kapha, coconut for pitta), and drop 5-10 drops in your ears befpre bed, letting them seep in. feels weird at first, but works wonders. -
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Sun, January 20, 2008 - 12:04 AMI usually put the drops on some cotton and sleep with the cotton in my ears -
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Re: Fire in the Hole - The Truth About Ear Candling
Mon, January 21, 2008 - 5:50 PMIt does nothing. The wax buildup in the cone is the melted wax from the cone itself. People may enjoy the warmth or the feeling of warmth but candling does not remove wax build up from your ears. It does not create a strong vacuum that "pulls" the wax out, or it would also damage the inner ear.
Thin about this-how hot would something have to be to melt cerumen in the ear canal? Too hot to be safe for such a small and delicate space.
Warm oil is good, as is hydrogen peroxide (but I am still not sure how truly effective this is...). Cleaning the inner ear gently every day and having ear lavage once a year by a professional are your best bets. -
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Re: Fire in the Hole - The Truth About Ear Candling
Tue, January 22, 2008 - 9:50 AMI have to disagree with JunoWoman. My experience does not match her findings:
from having done candling several times and seen it done on several people the wax inside is very definitely clearly not the same wax as from the candle. it has always been a completely different color and texture -- the same color and texture as ear wax. Also, the flame is at the end of a long stick and you cease the candling before it gets close to the ear. There is little to no heat felt on the skin itself. Overall the experience seems much less intrusive than sticking something in your ear and pushing inward as you try to clean it, where you can force the wax further in or damage the ear.
that has just been my experience. perhaps JunoWoman has used a type of ear candle I'm not familiar with, causing different results.
I've heard the warm oil and peroxide also work, however there are some people who find that uncomfortable so they opt for candling instead.
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Tue, January 22, 2008 - 4:15 PMI have to agree with Junowoman. Do a control test first, and compare the cones after burning one in your ear, and one in nothing. They will look the same. -
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Re: Fire in the Hole - The Truth About Ear Candling
Tue, January 22, 2008 - 4:29 PMIt doesn't "melt" the earwax, it draws it out gently...if you have ever done it, you have looked in there, and KNOWN that stuff is from deep within the ear, definitely and obviously not the candle...and I can always hear better. -
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Tue, January 22, 2008 - 6:53 PMI have doen it many times. Then I tried a control candle. I was underwhelmed. -
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Tue, January 22, 2008 - 7:45 PM"Draws the wax out gently." Uh huh. Please explain to me how that happens. Thank you. -
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Re: Fire in the Hole - The Truth About Ear Candling
Thu, January 24, 2008 - 8:41 PMThanks for those great links, Elaine.
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Re: Fire in the Hole - The Truth About Ear Candling
Fri, January 25, 2008 - 8:54 PMThank you, Elaine!
I simply don't buy into ear candling. There's too much risk and not enough ROI. Instead, once every two weeks or so, I put a few drops of hydrogen peroxide in my ears and let that settle, then place a towel over my ear and let the liquid drain out. This helps considerably, as does the body's natural ability to remove unnecessary earwax, and I am someone who has suffered from ear problems since birth (I'm deaf in my left ear, too). I see my ENT specialist every few months for a check-up.
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Re: Fire in the Hole - The Truth About Ear Candling
Sun, February 3, 2008 - 3:44 PMI agree whole heartedly that it does nothing in the way of cleaning out the wax. When I was in school in Toronto our aromatherapy teacher did control tests on a few kinds of candles from different sources and all the candles looked the same inside whether they were burned in an ear or not, and everyones ears looked the same through an otoscope after the candling. I will say though, the noise you experience while having it done is quite relaxing but that's about it. -
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Re: Fire in the Hole - The Truth About Ear Candling
Thu, February 7, 2008 - 3:11 AMI love ear candling ~ the effects are definitely more than just physical.
it does gently pull wax out of my ears ~ I clean my ears with a q-tip before candling & the q-tip comes out of my ear with no trace of wax ~ after candling & allowing myself to sit & relax for a bit ~ I clean my ears again with a q-tip & get wax on the tip ~ I can also smell the wax burning if it is pulled all the way to the end of the candle ~ it has a very distinctive smell ~ different than just the candle burning
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Re: Fire in the Hole - The Truth About Ear Candling
Sat, February 9, 2008 - 11:32 PMBut earwax is different from candle wax, but neither burn like you say they do. If you smell the "wax" burning, it's probably the delicate skin or hairs in your ear that's being burnt *by* the wax!
Cotton swabs aren't generally recommended for use in cleaning out your ears. Here is one good reason why:
tinyurl.com/24uar2
If you really feel the need to clean your ears (you don't have to--your body does a great job of this for you), put in just a couple drops of hydrogen peroxide, wait a few minutes, then tilt your ear onto a towel to let it drain out. That's all you need. -
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Sun, February 10, 2008 - 9:05 AMJenda - And what could be more natural than actually using one's little finger? :-) Cotton swabs can also compact and push down ear wax. Here's a great blog by an ear doctor on the subject...
blogs.webmd.com/all-ears/2...uction.html
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 11:17 PMIf you smell the "wax" burning, it's probably the delicate skin or hairs in your ear that's being burnt *by* the wax!
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no ~ that is not my experience
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Re: Fire in the Hole - The Truth About Ear Candling
Sun, April 6, 2008 - 7:09 AMCeanna what if your prakruti is pretty balanced between two doshas? would you then use two oils?
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Re: Fire in the Hole - The Truth About Ear Candling
Tue, January 22, 2008 - 6:50 PMI have done it a few times over the years. I always find it helps if my ears feel clogged. It seems to help sinus problems too. I have worked at Health food stores for over five years.. I have sold thousands of ear candles...... people come back.. again and again. People swear by them. I also like Wally's Ear Oil. It helped my puppy when her ear was bothering her. It helps me too..
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Re: Fire in the Hole - The Truth About Ear Candling
Fri, January 25, 2008 - 3:02 PMi have done the control candle also and it looked exactly the same as the candle that i used in my ear. sigh... i just do not think these things get wax out of your ear at all, but i do think that the warmth of the candle has a therapeutic effect of some kind. however, my best friend had some of the wax drop onto her eardrum and the expereince was far from pleasant. all that said, still think there is some benefit to these candles, but not sure what the actually effect is. -
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Re: Fire in the Hole - The Truth About Ear Candling
Fri, January 25, 2008 - 5:53 PMbeing as there is such an extreme divide in experience -- either really helpful, or nothing happened at all -- I'm wondering if there is a quality type of candle and a lame "new agey" kind of candle. Meaning particular brands or materials work, and others don't. Unfortunately I can't recall which brands I've used in the past because it has been awhile.
But I've seen it work on half a dozen different people, so I'd say that if you want to give it a try they go for it. It can't hurt to test it out. As I mentioned before unless you're doing something stupid like candling with an infection, or holding the candle so ash or wax drip in your ear (a paper plate prevents both) it's a safe thing to try and much less expensive than a visit to the doctors. :) -
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Re: Fire in the Hole - The Truth About Ear Candling
Mon, January 28, 2008 - 3:15 PMIf anything the title of this thread keeps me laughing ...
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Re: Fire in the Hole - The Truth About Ear Candling
Mon, January 28, 2008 - 4:39 PMit is GREAT! I have been doing it for about 10 years, every few months... and feel so much better afterwards. I recently went scuba diving while on vacation and had to go a week with water in my left ear, candled my ears when I got home, and problem solved. ; ) -
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Re: Fire in the Hole - The Truth About Ear Candling
Mon, January 28, 2008 - 7:20 PMA little olive oil on a cotton ball stuffed into your ear overnight will be much more effective, and there is no chance of you setting your hair on fire. Take it from someone with lifelong ear problems.
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Tue, January 29, 2008 - 12:45 AMMy Mexican father practiced something similar on all of us children as we grew up: If one of us had an earache, he would say it was time to "Get the air out of your ear". He would roll up a cone of newspaper and sit the inflicted child next to the kitchen sink. He actually made a bit of a ritual about it... he was the only one who could roll the cone just right, he insisted... he would roll a tube around his hand then cone it and lick the end to make a sealed wrap. He would make sure the tight end was not too pointy, so as not to hurt, but tight enough to fit into the ear. Then he would gather us all around... there were seven of us children. I don't know if he insisted, so much as we all just wanted to watch. Then he would have my mother stand next to the inflicted child who sat on a chair, side to the kitchen sink. He would stand behind, and ask someone to turn out the lights, except for a small task light in the far corner of the kitchen. Then, he would insert the cone in the ear and promise "This is going to make you feel better". Then he would ask for hush all around, and gently light the tip of the coned newspaper. Then we would all wait and watch... and listen! The crackling flame on the newspaper was amazing in a usually quite noisy household. Well, the inflicted couldn't really see what was happening, that's why mom as at the side, to reassure, and dad would be saying things like "That puff was the air coming out of your ear" or "Wow, you have a lot of air in your ear, that is creating a big blaze on the newspaper". He would watch to make sure the cone went as far as it could without going too far, then gently drop the scorched cone into the kitchen sink that had been pre-wetted down. Then he would soak a cotton ball in some mineral oil and with his large callused fingers, gently push it into the ear. Then the lights would go on and everything would be back to normal. The next day, the inflicted would wake up without an earache.
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Re: Fire in the Hole - The Truth About Ear Candling
Wed, January 30, 2008 - 6:47 AMLove this story, lobocita. Just makes me smile.
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Re: Fire in the Hole - The Truth About Ear Candling
Wed, January 30, 2008 - 11:13 PMSorry to write a new post to something I haven' t been discussing but there are such things as placebo affects... just something to keep in mind
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Re: Fire in the Hole - The Truth About Ear Candling
Sun, February 3, 2008 - 12:58 AMMy husband learned on a special type of candle that are certified medical devices, made in the Hopi way by BioSun, which the least expensive are in Australia. I think we got them at Global Herbal Supply. If used properly, they are wonderful! In fact I would like to have it done again since I know it loosened up stuff in my head. I use olive oil with garlic and mullein every night to loosen stuff up before treatment - maybe for a month or so? That way you would get more out of the treatment. -
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Re: Fire in the Hole - The Truth About Ear Candling
Fri, February 8, 2008 - 5:28 AMI just did it the other nite. It was relaxing.. as usual. There was a lot of stuff in it that looked like earwax but no one wanted to taste it to find out!!
The next morning when I used a q-tip (carefully) It was gross. Either the candles make your ears look waxy.. or they pull stuff out. Hard to tell - fo- sho!! -
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Re: Fire in the Hole - The Truth About Ear Candling
Mon, March 24, 2008 - 4:15 AMthere is some research being done on acupunture and it's not that it's really a placebo effect, it's a ritualized healing as in shaman work. the rigamarole, ritual, attention to the patient in the healers techniqie helps remove the dis-ease. -
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Re: Fire in the Hole - with a title like this I thought it was about Hemmeroids!
Tue, March 25, 2008 - 8:53 AMI am an acupuncturist and you are correct, the right shamanic ritual makes the acupuncture work. The same points with a bad acupuncturist do nothing or worse.
The ear candle if stuck in a grapefruit or a bowl of rice "pulls out" the same kind of "wax" that ear candeling folks have shown me.
Muller ear oil is another misnomer. It was an ecclectic remedy made from the blackish fermented juice of mullin flowers. It contained no actual oil per say. Modern companies wanted to market the formula and just soaked a few flowers in oil. A bacterial, enzyme rich non oily solution is totally different from olive oil. -
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Re: Fire in the Hole - with a title like this I thought it was about Hemmeroids!
Tue, March 25, 2008 - 9:14 AMParad - "I am an acupuncturist and you are correct, the right shamanic ritual makes the acupuncture work. The same points with a bad acupuncturist do nothing or worse."
That's an interesting observation. Does that mean that you don't believe that the actual act of acupuncture (the physical needles in the specific points) is the healing agent but that rituals are? -
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Re: Fire in the Hole - with a title like this I thought it was about Hemmeroids!
Tue, March 25, 2008 - 1:29 PMDisease is complicated. certain points if stimulated will produce certain effects but this does not seem to be enough. Diagnosing, asking questions opens the body up for change. Timing the needles with the breath, the moon phase, time of day has an effect. A robot could do acupuncture to stop a nosebleed but disease is complicated and requires raport. -
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Re: Fire in the Hole - with a title like this I thought it was about Hemmeroids!
Tue, March 25, 2008 - 1:42 PMParad - Certainly diagnosing and treating diseases is complicated most of the time. Sometimes it's quite simple, depends on what the disease or condition is really doesn't it?
So are you saying that just using needles in the appropriate acupuncture point isn't enough to treat a disease?
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Re: Fire in the Hole - The Truth About Ear Candling
Tue, March 25, 2008 - 9:11 AMPia - I mean no offense but I think it's important to point out that placebo effects *rely* upon rituals believed to heal and attention to patient in the practice/technique, whether they're being employed the context of a hospital or ritual in the jungle. You've essentially just said that what makes acupuncture work is a placebo effect! -
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Tue, March 25, 2008 - 1:34 PMThis is not what pia said. It is the ritual that facilitates the action of the needles. Acupuncture works better on animals and small children. Figure that out! -
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Sat, March 29, 2008 - 1:19 AMparad, yes, this is what i am saying.
the study is being done by an acupuncturist in NY at ...NYU? (not sure). i was watching a tv show on public television about the placebo affect and the studies being done to understand why it works. apparently, antidepressents have an almost 50% placebo effect! the study is not meant to disprove acupuncture at all, but to try to understand how the shamanic element works in healing of all types. the doctor as shaman is an idea that is coming to surface now because they are realizing (duh!) there is so so so much more to healing than diagnosis, pills and surgery. the show was pointing out that the current medical system of the 15 minute HMO Dr. appointment is comepletely missing the mark of the nature of healing. all of this information is pretty basic to us, but it's very exciting to me that science is starting to peer into the world of the "non-scientific". -
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Sun, April 6, 2008 - 7:38 AMPia - Do you actually understand what the placebo affect is? Or what science is a discipline and a methodology? I ask because saying that "science is starting to peer into the world of the non-scientific" makes absolutely no sense!
While I fully respect your right to have faith in acupuncture or whatever you want, if you're going to try to promote it and give it credibility using science then a basic understanding of science would be, well, basic.
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